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		<title>By: Allye Vice</title>
		<link>http://www.agilemicroisv.com/2008/07/saas-and-the-mi/comment-page-1/#comment-64</link>
		<dc:creator>Allye Vice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 03:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I just wanted to let everyone know that the ElastX ISV Beta Program
is now open! If you think you would like to be a part of the beta
program, visit our forum at www.elastx.com/forum to register for the
forum. Once you register, you can post links to your application for us
to wrap.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just wanted to let everyone know that the ElastX ISV Beta Program<br />
is now open! If you think you would like to be a part of the beta<br />
program, visit our forum at <a href="http://www.elastx.com/forum" rel="nofollow">http://www.elastx.com/forum</a> to register for the<br />
forum. Once you register, you can post links to your application for us<br />
to wrap.</p>
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		<title>By: Gord Graham</title>
		<link>http://www.agilemicroisv.com/2008/07/saas-and-the-mi/comment-page-1/#comment-63</link>
		<dc:creator>Gord Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 06:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the comments, guys. Sorry it&#039;s taken so long to
respond...I&#039;ve been busy with the announcement of our ElastX
initiative. It really seems to be getting the attention of the media
and bloggers.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Landon makes a good point...there are quite a variety of vendors
supplying various SaaS utilities and components (including us!). From
dealing with a number of ISVs, I&#039;ve found that they don&#039;t really want
to assemble the components, select a hosting provider, manage the
hosting and other aspects of the deployment, etc...they just want
somebody to take care of it for them so they can concentrate on
building a competitive feature set in their software that their
end-users will value. The big word in the SaaS business right now is
&quot;monetize&quot;...i.e. the ISVs are asking &quot;how are you going to help me
make money from my app?&quot;, rather than &quot;why are you asking me to spend
more money on additional tools, components and services?&quot;. That&#039;s why
in ElastX we make SaaS-enablement, hosting, and everything else free
for the ISV. When a happy and satisfied customer pays to use an
application, we all make money. Until then, we don&#039;t try to make money
off of each other.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If you are writing a web app from scratch, there are a variety of
toolsets to choose from, as Benjamin points out. If I was doing it, I
might be tempted to go the route of a Force.com, as it provides you
with not only the tools for multi-tenancy and the other &quot;SaaS stuff&quot;,
but it gives you access to an existing marketplace to offer it on. The
drawbacks, though, are a) you have to develop the app from scratch (no
automated transformation of existing Windows apps), b) your app will be
SaaS-only (wouldn&#039;t it be nice to have a SaaS version and a on-premise
version based on the same code stream?), and c) you are locked-in to
that one marketplace.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I guess my final comment is that the subscription model is deeply
flawed. I think it&#039;s the wrong revenue model for most microISV
applications...too many purchase decisions for the consumer to make,
too many payment transactions to process, etc. I think the subscription
model became popular because enterprise ISVs were terrified to abandon
their perpetual license fee revenue for a true pay-as-you-go model. If
they could get the customer to commit to a 6- or 12-month subscription,
the revenue-shock wasn&#039;t as bad. Most microISVs aren&#039;t as addicted to
the big end-of-quarter site license deals, and I think they will
experience a significant revenue increase from the pay-as-you-go model.
Plus, I believe they could reconsider their fees for perpetual
licenses...I think that in trying to capture the market of occasional
users they have priced their perpetual versions too low.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comments, guys. Sorry it&#8217;s taken so long to<br />
respond&#8230;I&#8217;ve been busy with the announcement of our ElastX<br />
initiative. It really seems to be getting the attention of the media<br />
and bloggers.</p>
<p>Landon makes a good point&#8230;there are quite a variety of vendors<br />
supplying various SaaS utilities and components (including us!). From<br />
dealing with a number of ISVs, I&#8217;ve found that they don&#8217;t really want<br />
to assemble the components, select a hosting provider, manage the<br />
hosting and other aspects of the deployment, etc&#8230;they just want<br />
somebody to take care of it for them so they can concentrate on<br />
building a competitive feature set in their software that their<br />
end-users will value. The big word in the SaaS business right now is<br />
&#8220;monetize&#8221;&#8230;i.e. the ISVs are asking &#8220;how are you going to help me<br />
make money from my app?&#8221;, rather than &#8220;why are you asking me to spend<br />
more money on additional tools, components and services?&#8221;. That&#8217;s why<br />
in ElastX we make SaaS-enablement, hosting, and everything else free<br />
for the ISV. When a happy and satisfied customer pays to use an<br />
application, we all make money. Until then, we don&#8217;t try to make money<br />
off of each other.</p>
<p>If you are writing a web app from scratch, there are a variety of<br />
toolsets to choose from, as Benjamin points out. If I was doing it, I<br />
might be tempted to go the route of a Force.com, as it provides you<br />
with not only the tools for multi-tenancy and the other &#8220;SaaS stuff&#8221;,<br />
but it gives you access to an existing marketplace to offer it on. The<br />
drawbacks, though, are a) you have to develop the app from scratch (no<br />
automated transformation of existing Windows apps), b) your app will be<br />
SaaS-only (wouldn&#8217;t it be nice to have a SaaS version and a on-premise<br />
version based on the same code stream?), and c) you are locked-in to<br />
that one marketplace.</p>
<p>I guess my final comment is that the subscription model is deeply<br />
flawed. I think it&#8217;s the wrong revenue model for most microISV<br />
applications&#8230;too many purchase decisions for the consumer to make,<br />
too many payment transactions to process, etc. I think the subscription<br />
model became popular because enterprise ISVs were terrified to abandon<br />
their perpetual license fee revenue for a true pay-as-you-go model. If<br />
they could get the customer to commit to a 6- or 12-month subscription,<br />
the revenue-shock wasn&#8217;t as bad. Most microISVs aren&#8217;t as addicted to<br />
the big end-of-quarter site license deals, and I think they will<br />
experience a significant revenue increase from the pay-as-you-go model.<br />
Plus, I believe they could reconsider their fees for perpetual<br />
licenses&#8230;I think that in trying to capture the market of occasional<br />
users they have priced their perpetual versions too low.</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin Curtis</title>
		<link>http://www.agilemicroisv.com/2008/07/saas-and-the-mi/comment-page-1/#comment-62</link>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin Curtis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 12:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;For subscription management, check out one of my mISV projects, RailsKits: &lt;a href=&quot;http://railskits.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://railskits.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The SaaS Rails Kit makes it easy for people writing SaaS apps with
Rails to get subscription management, billing, etc. out of the box. It
was based on the work I did for my own mISV project, Catch the Best (&lt;a href=&quot;http://catchthebest.com/%29,&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://catchthebest.com/),&lt;/a&gt; and various client projects.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For subscription management, check out one of my mISV projects, RailsKits: <a href="http://railskits.com/" rel="nofollow">http://railskits.com/</a></p>
<p>The SaaS Rails Kit makes it easy for people writing SaaS apps with<br />
Rails to get subscription management, billing, etc. out of the box. It<br />
was based on the work I did for my own mISV project, Catch the Best (<a href="http://catchthebest.com/%29," rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://catchthebest.com/)" rel="nofollow">http://catchthebest.com/)</a>, and various client projects.</p>
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		<title>By: n! Labs</title>
		<link>http://www.agilemicroisv.com/2008/07/saas-and-the-mi/comment-page-1/#comment-61</link>
		<dc:creator>n! Labs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 09:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I totally believe that SaaS is the way to go. The cost of customer
acquisition is enough to dictate that the model is the only way to go
for a mISV to be successful.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally believe that SaaS is the way to go. The cost of customer<br />
acquisition is enough to dictate that the model is the only way to go<br />
for a mISV to be successful.</p>
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		<title>By: Landon Hoover</title>
		<link>http://www.agilemicroisv.com/2008/07/saas-and-the-mi/comment-page-1/#comment-60</link>
		<dc:creator>Landon Hoover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 02:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Gord,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The SaaS platform/subscription model you are suggesting seems
fantastic. I know that there are a few companies already in the SaaS
billing mediate/subscription space, for example eVapt. I was curious
how your services differ from eVapt’s and other SaaS subscription
managers. &lt;br&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gord,</p>
<p>The SaaS platform/subscription model you are suggesting seems<br />
fantastic. I know that there are a few companies already in the SaaS<br />
billing mediate/subscription space, for example eVapt. I was curious<br />
how your services differ from eVapt’s and other SaaS subscription<br />
managers. </p>
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